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THINKING ABOUT RACING.

Post by Rotormaster » Thu May 06, 2010 10:26 am

Just a few questions. to those of you who race, Im thinking about modifying my savage and im wandering about rules and limitations, do all tracks follow the same criteria that determines which class a certain vehicle falls into? I assume I would race in 1/8 monster truck but I want to know how extensively I can modify my truck.

Any help will be appreciated.

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Post by tokie » Thu May 06, 2010 10:55 am

savagesam is the go to man for this kinds of questions

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Post by Squid » Thu May 06, 2010 9:03 pm

Moving this to the Racers section.
Most tracks have a set of "local" rules, and another set such as ROAR for big events, and they may actually use ROAR for club nights.  The only way to know what the rules are for any local track is to stop by and ask them.

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Post by Rotormaster » Thu May 06, 2010 11:53 pm

Yeah I might have to go and check out my local track. Im thinking I would be running i a truggy class or something more xtreme, what I want to know is how extensively I could modify my savage/truggy, by this I mean at what point is my machine so radically modified that it does not even fit in a truggy class? and im not talking bolt-on parts modified, think of an F1, they dont buy a car and then flood it heavy with bolt-on RPM parts from tower, no they design and build the *censored* to do what they intend to do, carry utmost ridiculous amounts of velocity through corners, this means complying with the universal laws of physics.

That brings me to my next point, i've been noticing a huge racing trend that I really dont understand, a lot of people are planting ridiculous amounts of extended wheel base to their trucks, I think people are forgetting that mass equals inertia, some are dropping serious amounts of ca$holla on carbon parts that at the end only even hardly compensate for the extra weight of their gigantic things, in some examples ive seen I dont think the carbon even outweighs the extra mass added and they just end up with a bigger, heavier truck, yeah that should go around corners.

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Post by -SavageSam- » Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:44 pm

I built and extended carbon fiber racing savage that is about 4.9 kg, it hadles a track very much like a truggy does in every way, I also won a national title by 6 laps over the rest of the field of monster trucks in attenance so im guessing all the modifying and carbon fiber has its advantage for those willing to build some thing different that is lighter, faster & handles better than every other savage monster truck out there tearing up the tracks around the world....
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Post by badass_savage » Wed Jun 09, 2010 3:35 am

I made a racer... The build was fun and I ended up with a truck that could win every race if nothing broke, but if your track is going to make u race with the truggys I highly recomend u just get a truggy. It's cheaper in the long run and no matter what you do to a savage it's still going to be a savage.
I purchased a buggy a few months ago and now that I
look back I think to myself "what was I thinking" the buggy is a blast and I'll never try and modifiy a truck for something it's not mention for, they make trucks for racing and trucks for bashing. Now my savage is being parted out and I got a truggy

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Post by Cadimman » Wed Jun 09, 2010 5:47 am

A Savage will ALWAYS have a higher center of gravity than any truggy. Also would need center diff mod to have a chance.

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Post by -SavageSam- » Wed Jun 09, 2010 6:39 am

Well each to there own thoughts when it comes racing a savage, here is mine running in the truggy class last week end and the savage finished 5th in a a main field of 10, I get more of a buzz from beating 5 truggys around the track with my monster truck than i do winning with my 1/8th truggy, 1/8th buggy, 1/8th brushless buggy, 1/10 short course truck and 1/10th 2 wheel drive buggy...



I cant say this enough but a truggy is fun and faster than a savage, but every one has truggy's, not many have really fast savage's
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Post by Squid » Wed Jun 09, 2010 7:34 am

Well said Sam, I still run my Savage when i get a chance to race, admittedly only been out once this season so far, but I still finished 5th out of 14 truggys.  The Savage is way more fun to drive fast, I think because it isn't easy to make it handle that well, then when it handles well (for a MT) it looks even faster.

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Post by Savage01085 » Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:18 am

Here are the Roar rules, no club race I have ever been to has enforced or checked them.



http://www.roarracing.com/downloads/200 ... e_Book.pdf

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Post by Cadimman » Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:34 am

[quote="-SavageSam-";p="756767"]Well each to there own thoughts when it comes racing a savage, here is mine running in the truggy class last week end and the savage finished 5th in a a main field of 10, I get more of a buzz from beating 5 truggys around the track with my monster truck than i do winning with my 1/8th truggy, 1/8th buggy, 1/8th brushless buggy, 1/10 short course truck and 1/10th 2 wheel drive buggy...



I cant say this enough but a truggy is fun and faster than a savage, but every one has truggy's, not many have really fast savage's[/quote]

Exactly. All things being equal a truggy is faster and more track friendly. (not a thought, but a fact). But no matter what you do a Savage falls short. Sounds like you are a good driver compared to your competition. If you drove one of their truggys, rest assured your lap times would drop dramatically. I used to race a small block Tmaxx against Savages, etc. Finnished 1st place 3 years in a row. My truggy runs circles around it!

Racing MT is the funnest racing I've done and is highly encouraged by me.

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Post by Squid » Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:05 pm

[quote="Savage01085";p="756789"]Here are the Roar rules, no club race I have ever been to has enforced or checked them.



http://www.roarracing.com/downloads/200 ... e_Book.pdf[/quote]
ROAR along with every other sanctioning body in the USA has dropped MT as a racing class to my knowledge.

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Post by Twistedsavage » Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:12 pm

[quote="Squid";p="756859"][quote="Savage01085";p="756789"]Here are the Roar rules, no club race I have ever been to has enforced or checked them.



http://www.roarracing.com/downloads/200 ... e_Book.pdf[/quote]
ROAR along with every other sanctioning body in the USA has dropped MT as a racing class to my knowledge.[/quote]


And that sucks. I think MT was one of the best classes. From a spectator POV it would be the most fun to watch
The Twistedsavage will ride again

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Post by Rotormaster » Thu Jun 10, 2010 10:06 am

Cheers Sam for your reply.

[quote="-SavageSam-";p="756767"]Well each to there own thoughts when it comes racing a savage, here is mine running in the truggy class last week end and the savage finished 5th in a a main field of 10, I get more of a buzz from beating 5 truggys around the track with my monster truck than i do winning with my 1/8th truggy, 1/8th buggy, 1/8th brushless buggy, 1/10 short course truck and 1/10th 2 wheel drive buggy...
I cant say this enough but a truggy is fun and faster than a savage, but every one has truggy's, not many have really fast savage's[/quote]

Also I think this is very true. Getting a truggy to put out some tough laps isn't that hard....its a truggy, however when a savage is able to put out some tough laps that is something else.

I bet those truggy owners would have had they're tail between they're legs after getting they're truggies taken to school by a savage.

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