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new here...what to do to build a racer out of a savage ss...

Post by 800screws » Fri Sep 09, 2011 7:21 pm

got a savage ss, what mods are good for converting it to a racer? ive seen the susp converison kit but thats it? what shocks? do they still make the 17mm nubz kit? i want to get it lower and wider right now....suggestions? thanks

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Post by bigbigbrig » Fri Sep 09, 2011 8:46 pm

Do you have the original savage ss with the silver chassis plates and the nitrostar .25 or the savage x ss that has grey chassis plates and the k4.6?

This is how mine is set up.
The shocks are CEN Nemesis shocks. CEN shocks are in-expensive and if you seal them up right they hold up very well. Alot of people like the losi shock mod. That is something else for you to look in to.
Also you might want to look into a mid tank mod or the ofna tank mod. I went with the ofna tank on mine.
I know that everyone hates aluminum a arms but the added low weight really helped keep me on all fours at the track. For a basher aluminum a arms are a no no but theres no trees to hit on the track.lol
A wing is also a good idea for a racer. There is not one on my truck in the pics but there is one now.
For tires its more of a personal choice. It is always good to have a light tire and wheel.
I have titanium beadlocks that are not made any more with HPI Dirt Bonz and Trinity racing foam in them. I also belted the wheels.

I didn't mention anything about an engine/pipe or LCG chassis plate because I don't know how much money you have to work with. Everything I mentioned are easy bolt on things that can get you on the track quick.
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Post by 800screws » Sat Sep 10, 2011 8:21 am

yeah its the ss with the 4.6.........what wing do u use? any links to the tank mod? and losi shock mod...im gonna keep the engine as is for now...im more concered about handling.

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Post by Iguy » Sat Sep 10, 2011 10:20 am

If you can, talk to savagesam. He doesn't seem to be around here too often anymore but you can still PM him and see. He was/is the australian nation monster truck champion and he used a savage. A few guys helped him and he has some videos somewhere around here so you can get the info off of them too.
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Post by bigbigbrig » Sat Sep 10, 2011 9:22 pm

Look up savage sam on you tube there is a few movies of his set ups.
There is one of his original set up with a K4.6 and a stock chassis is you look enough.
There is also a really good movie of his present set up with a lcg chassis, losi shocks, and the whole nine yards.

As for your question about the wing I used a hot bodies lightning pro wing and wing mount.

ofna tank mod link
modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=7318

Losi shock mod link
modules.php?file=viewtopic&name=Forums&t=74511

I haven't ran the sway bar kit so I can't say anything about them.

Heres some pics of a wing on my basher. This one has an ofna lx1 wing and mount.
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Post by ransom » Sat Sep 10, 2011 9:41 pm

quickest cheapest handling upgrade is truggy wheels with wide offset and low profile tyres
instant better cornering and acceleration
depending on the track most need mid range power more than top end speed
longer and low centre of gravity chassis helps too
as does lowering the ride height

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Post by 800screws » Sun Sep 11, 2011 1:51 pm

well..so far, i ordered the susp conversion kit, the 17mm hubs and axles, wide offset ofna rims and crimefighters........and the hpi big bore shocks(i hope these work! it said for all savage models).

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Post by Iguy » Sun Sep 11, 2011 2:16 pm

That should be a great start. For the best  handling you will want the front arms to be level to the ground and the rears to be angled up a little.
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Post by 800screws » Sun Sep 11, 2011 2:57 pm

k...will do. those shocks will work with everything, right?

can i get some links to the low center gravity chassis's...

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Post by 800screws » Sun Sep 11, 2011 4:03 pm

does the 17mm hub kit come with new hub pins too? i lost one off the 14mm hubs.......

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Post by Savage01085 » Sun Sep 11, 2011 4:07 pm

Here is my racer with the Innovative RC LCG 6mm front extended race chassis

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The IRC chassis is well built and very durable, I did have to mod the TVP's a little to fit the X SS roll bar. I think the TVP's were originally desighned around the Pre X roll bar. Other than than the roll bar issue everything was a perfect fit.

I hope this helps.

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Post by Iguy » Sun Sep 11, 2011 4:08 pm

Those shocks will not only work but will be great! For low CG chassis there are lot's of options. For a good racer you will probably want extended too. Just search for Fastlane Machine, Innovative RC, or Platinum RC products. Each are in a little different price range but each will serve you well. I suggest either Fastlane or platinum, innovative has some serious customer service problems.
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Post by 800screws » Sun Sep 11, 2011 6:30 pm

thanks.........i will get some pics posted when im done.

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Post by bigbigbrig » Sun Sep 11, 2011 6:56 pm

sound like you are on the right track.

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Post by 800screws » Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:25 am

ok..finished it up...1 problem..it doesnt turn for squat....
did i mess up by putting offset rims on it. it barley turns the tires both ways...its not the servo, i just put in a jr9000t for the steering. should i put on standard offset rims to get tighter steering?

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Post by bigbigbrig » Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:17 am

whenever you cut the wheels does the knuckle bottom out on the upright?
You might want to shave the knuckles a little.

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Post by 800screws » Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:18 pm

checked the knuckle, nothing is hitting....i had to shorten up the tie rods to make the wheels straight after installing the offset wheels and susp conversion kit...now it seems like the servo with the rods doesnt have enough throw....*censored*! any ideas how to fix this?

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Post by bigbigbrig » Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:37 pm

What steering servo do you have?
Also check to see how tight your servo saver is.

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Post by GSGA » Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:39 pm

End point adjustment maybe?
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Post by 800screws » Mon Sep 19, 2011 5:24 pm

not sure what endpoint adj. is? the servo is a jr racing 9000t...ill check the servo saver too...it worked with a weaker servo fine when it was all stock...not sure what happend from then to now beside having to shorten the *censored* out of the tie rods.

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