Whose bent an alum tower?

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Whose bent an alum tower?

Post by I_Like_Nitro » Mon Aug 11, 2014 12:16 am

I am convinced now that the root of much of the Savage's durability issues has to do with the shock towers. They are high grade plastic, but the entire suspension block is a joke. HPI had to know this about the X4.6 if they jumped it consistently. If they did not, I'd say the line forms to the left of folks who would happily test this for free...so how have they improved this?

If there is a anyone on the design team--am I wrong to assume you guys understand the issues? Whether or not they are being addressed is one thing, but curious if you think I am off-base here and would love your feedback,

The only downside I've heard about these alum towers is the fact they can bend. And? I have 3 stock sets and no doubt a good alum piece would hold up (certainly better than this stock crap) Additionally, I can off-set the weight.

I have bent 3-4 towers (out of the 20+ I own)...but in much worse crashes then I've ever had with this Savage. It;s the right design in my opinion. So other than the fact they can bend (just like 100% of every alum tower) why are there so many naysayer's against it.

'll take my chances because stock doesn't work. I much prefer Cf, so if you can find someone who has them or I can pay to make a custom set, let me know. I've never broken a piece of CF  on an rc vehicle...and run that *censored* everywhere.

Outside of that would love to hear from guys who have alum towers and how they have help up based on the style of driving you do.
Many thanks to all!

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Post by BurlyKatt » Sun Feb 22, 2015 6:39 pm

My aluminum ones lasted me about 2.5 hrs of run time before they bent. I put the stock ones back on after I boiled them in water for 40 seconds or so to give them more flex.

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Post by SV250 » Sun Feb 22, 2015 11:45 pm

Depends n what brand. I bent a set of gpm towers. My flm towers are bullet proof
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Post by NizzleMaShizzle » Mon Feb 23, 2015 12:17 am

I concur with SV250 mine are also bullet proof so far *bang bang* Then again I haven't landed upside down from 6+ ft yet so.....I guess it also depends on how crazy you bash your rig, and how good you are at driving.......
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Post by I_Like_Nitro » Mon Feb 23, 2015 2:49 am

[quote="BurlyKatt";p="884668"]My aluminum ones lasted me about 2.5 hrs of run time before they bent. I put the stock ones back on after I boiled them in water for 40 seconds or so to give them more flex.[/quote]


Some questions for you:
1. What brand towers? I've gone about two gallons with the ones I have and have yet to break/bend them.

2. How do you feel the"more flex" is good. I can give you a number of specific reasons I've experienced as to why it's bad, but curious as to your experience in how it's good--or did you just hear that?

3. Have you ever wondered why 100% of the "more durable" vehicles run alum or CF...and not plastic? Or are they missing something?

Finally, the stock towers don't get damaged...they simply prevent it. Well, eventually they will warp throwing your suspension off, but that is another issue. Boiling them will not prevent that. I've warped six of them. Three boiled and 3 of them not boiled. Proof enough for me. Knowing what I know now, the plastic towers are the #1 design issue with this truck

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Post by SV250 » Mon Feb 23, 2015 10:23 am

I think the fuel tank is the number one design flaw, but back to the towers. If hpi made alu towers, they would be thin and flimsy. They would be worse than the plastic ones.

Problem with the towers flexing is that they put holes in the fuel tank and ben the shocks. Maybe a support brace is all thats required.
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Post by LLkoolskillet » Mon Feb 23, 2015 10:53 pm

Make some braces and your issued will be solved

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Post by SV250 » Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:20 pm

I saw one brAced with tierods. It looked I ked pretty clean. Ill have to look for that post.
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Post by I_Like_Nitro » Tue Feb 24, 2015 2:26 am

[quote="SV250";p="884680"]I think the fuel tank is the number one design flaw [/quote]
Agreed. Towers are number one (less known issue) I should say, IMO.

[quote="SV250";p="884680"]
If hpi made alu towers, they would be thin and flimsy. [/quote]
Sure, them they would have the HD version. ;-)

I considered a brace, but ever design I saw had a big footprint when it came to laying down or standing up the shocks (which I do quite a bit). In the end I see zero disadvantage with alum so the question is why wouldn't I?

So my point is the alum towers--in my experience--are no where near as villianous as a lot of people seem to think, and in fact I can to learn making them more stiff (be it a brace of material) is advantageous. Quasi iso is the TRUE way to go, but can't find them ;-(.

As I've said (for others)...it;s not a matter of which towers will last the longest, it is which ones will protect.

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Post by SV250 » Tue Feb 24, 2015 3:50 am

Well flm. Very well designed. I cant see them bending at all.
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Post by I_Like_Nitro » Wed Feb 25, 2015 12:16 am

If I ever bend the ones I have then, FLM is my next buy, assuming they come with a warranty. A lifetime one is ideal, but I just need a one day warranty to find out if they will hold. ;-)

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Post by Beardedsavage » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:13 pm

I just ordered the Flm tower for mine. Looking forward to trying it out.

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Post by I_Like_Nitro » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:55 pm

I've heard only great things about it.

SV250, I'm aware of the tie rod design. A+ for creativity, but once again it limits you to one position on the tower to mount your shocks. With that said, the intent is all the same. The movement of the plastic towers can cause all sorts of issues if you get rough with your savage, let alone the fact they will become deformed after a while causing one of the shocks to be a less/more progressive then the other.

I guess this is why I still don't understand the concept of "You should never get an alum tower for the Savage as they can bend!!! The plastic one is good as it flexes." To me it's like saying you should not get an alum engine plate because it can bend. Instead get a plastic one so it can flex. To each is own I guess....just throwing out my experience. This is why I was like "yeahhh" when I saw guys bracing their towers. ;-)

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