How To: LST Shock Mod

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Re: How To: LST Shock Mod

Post by savagemaurice » Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:23 am

hello i run it only that way with the truggy wheels stock wheels wil hit the schocks with turning but i think 1/2 ofset will be oneough to run stock tires.

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Post by tksnobords » Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:46 am

hey guys. ?i got a used savage kit kind of. ?my buddy gave me two savages....in piece's. ?so i put together a savage X chassis with XL axle's. ?it has RPM upper and lower arms in the front, and upper RPM arms in the rear. ?does anyone know if the XL extended axle's are enough of an offset for the wheels to clear the shocks? ?i already bought the LST shocks, and since these are the only shocks I have, i'm going to the hardware store to see what i can do to get the shocks mounted, any suggestions? ?I read the posts above about the 6mm spacer's ect...

here are the wheels i ordered, in case it matters... http://hotbodiesonline.com/products/en/hb61169.html

Edit: i tried adding pictures, but i must be doing something wrong...

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Post by KiZ » Fri Mar 05, 2010 1:20 pm

[quote="tksnobords";p="743115"]does anyone know if the XL extended axle's are enough of an offset for the wheels to clear the shocks?[/quote]

Yeah the XL axles should provide enough offset to clear the shocks OK, they are at least equal to 1/2 offset, maybe even more. As for those wheels, you might want to consider returning them if you haven't used them yet as HB wheels are very weak and you'll probably end up cracking or breaking the hexes on them. Just a suggestion. There are much better wheels and tires out there.
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Post by tksnobords » Fri Mar 05, 2010 1:55 pm

check the price of the wheels...lol.  thanks for your input

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Post by KiZ » Fri Mar 05, 2010 2:00 pm

$5! No wonder  :lol:
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Post by tksnobords » Mon Mar 08, 2010 3:50 pm

got my shocks today.  going to put them on tonight.

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Post by tksnobords » Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:35 pm

i'm  looking into other option without buying the IRC kit...any idea's?  please include pix

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Post by midnightrider » Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:51 pm

I like this LST shock mod alot it looks AWSOME :twisted:  but there is a couple of questions about the suspention geometry. when you move the shock to the rear or the front of the a arm the impact force will be twisting on the a arms. As before the impact force was strait up to the shock tower.

Its just an observation but before I throw more money at my truck can someone that uses this mod tell if there is a performace gain with the LSTs over stock. or has anyone had any problems ? I havent seen any......all good stuff from what I read.
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Post by KiZ » Tue Mar 16, 2010 5:22 am

[quote="midnightrider";p="744679"]I like this LST shock mod alot it looks AWSOME :twisted: ?but there is a couple of questions about the suspention geometry. when you move the shock to the rear or the front of the a arm the impact force will be twisting on the a arms. As before the impact force was strait up to the shock tower.

Its just an observation but before I throw more money at my truck can someone that uses this mod tell if there is a performace gain with the LSTs over stock. or has anyone had any problems ? I havent seen any......all good stuff from what I read.[/quote]

Sure, any single shock mod will alter the geometry till you have an imbalance but as long as you have X generation towers, everything is stiff enough so that it doesn't matter at all. Big bores, Cen shocks, whatever all mount in the same way regarding that.

Performance over stock shocks? Yeah I'd say. Assuming you are talking about the original skinny 8 shock setup, I love my LSTs over them. Very plush ride without being overly soft. Damping is exceptionally smooth, you have so much oil that it's real silky. Also generally 4 shock setups will be better than 8 because you have less of everything, so less things to buy, maintain and go wrong. 4 Springs introduce less variables and will respond better than 8. Same for dampers.

There are still problems. LSTs + mounts are quite a bit heavier than a single set of big bores, for example so if light-weight is your thing, look elsewhere. And they get problems like bent/broken shafts just as much as other shocks.
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Post by tksnobords » Tue Mar 16, 2010 9:53 am

well i ordered the IRC Kit.  $38 shipped.
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Post by midnightrider » Tue Mar 16, 2010 1:34 pm

thanks again kiz. I am going to do this mod when I get the money :lol:
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Post by tksnobords » Thu Mar 25, 2010 3:36 pm

[quote="tksnobords";p="744737"]well i ordered the IRC Kit. ?$38 shipped.[/quote]

it finally shipped.  it was processing for a week, then packaged, now the status is shipped and updated with a tracking number.  shipping was free though.  i'll get some pictures up as soon as i get it installed.  

wait, i still can't attach pictures to posts.  it says my limit has been reached, but i haven't posted pix before.....???

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Post by midnightrider » Thu Mar 25, 2010 5:22 pm

you have to copy paste the photos in your profile signature that should do it.
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Post by KiZ » Sat Mar 27, 2010 5:52 pm

[quote="tksnobords";p="746107"]it finally shipped. ?it was processing for a week, then packaged, now the status is shipped and updated with a tracking number. ?shipping was free though. ?i'll get some pictures up as soon as i get it installed. ?

wait, i still can't attach pictures to posts. ?it says my limit has been reached, but i haven't posted pix before.....???[/quote]

Good to hear. IRC can sometimes be slow to get stuff done.. he also seems to have supply problems.

As for photos, use a website like photobucket and you can show photos using the IMG tags.
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Post by midnightrider » Sat Mar 27, 2010 6:46 pm

well I have my LST big bores and they have been sitting on my bench for along time waiting to get mounted. emailed IRC like four times ignored my emails. so I got them on the phone with my credit card company told them I was going to cancel payment they say they are on the way. every day I check the mail I just get madder :evil: ?I will not be ordering from them again. I feel like flying over there and ringing someones filthy neck :lol:

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Post by tksnobords » Tue Mar 30, 2010 11:34 am

i had to email Robert at IRC on 3 different email accounts before getting a response. ?and all i got was a weak apology for the delay. ?i ordered it on the 16th of march...it is now the 30th, and i still haven't received the kit. ?i have a tracking number, but it hasnt been updated in a week. ?

I WILL NEVER ORDER FROM INNOVATIVE RC AGAIN. ?SLOWEST SHIPPING. ?I SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN THE NEW ERA KIT. ?

IS THERE A "GOOD GUY/BAD GUY" SECTION ON HERE? ?BECAUSE IRC IS GETTING A LOT OF FREE ADVERTISING ON HERE. ?

EVEN YOU KIZ, YOU HIGHLY RECOMMENDED THEIR KIT. ?YOU SHOULD REALLY CHANGE YOUR OPINION OF THEM. ?HEY KIZ HOW FAR FROM IRC ARE YOU? CAN YOU GO TELL HIM HE SUCKS AND IS A HORRIBLE BUSINESS PERSON.

I WILL BE GOING TO EVERY FORUM I CAN TO TELL EVERYONE HOW HORRIBLE HE IS.

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Post by J1A1H » Tue Mar 30, 2010 12:04 pm

Are you seriously complaining about 2 weeks delivery??? Everytime i order from the states, i can wait up to 1  month to 6 weeks for packages to arrive. I ordered a sway bar around 2.5 weeks ago and its still not here! You should be more patient. Only when ordering from the states do i give up to 1 month. Canada is very gd, but i think its because they are not so strict with customs charges???

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Post by xtremesavage » Tue Mar 30, 2010 12:07 pm

Its been shipped or you wouldnt have tracking, IRC isnt responsible for updating tracking, thats the post office problem.
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Post by midnightrider » Tue Mar 30, 2010 2:47 pm

I hate snail mail mine still aint here either :x I have ordered stuff from overseas before no problems at all this is a problem on IRCs end

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Post by tksnobords » Tue Mar 30, 2010 5:35 pm

it doesnt matter how long the transit time is.  it took over a week and a half to get it in the mail.  thats why IRC sucks

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