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Ways to Mount LST Shocks

Post by iCow » Sat Nov 27, 2004 4:26 pm

Well i couldn't wait so i did a rough fitting of the LST shocks on my racer... I'm considering just making the racer into a sprint/Baja truck... anyway...

This is just a rough mount for the top... I had to shave off the back of the towers so the bolt would go through...

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Here's the mounting for the bottom...

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You can see how tight the clearances are...

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Here's one side mounted...

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All mounted even with the stabilizers...

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From the top...

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and finally sitting on the table... high stance for sure...

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My plan is to probably remove the stabilizers. these shocks are so strong... i won't need them anymore...

Casey is sending me some tower brackets to get the tops away from the towers more. My battery mod doesn't fit with these beasts either so the brackets or nova towers are definitely needed.

I'll keep posting as things get done... enjoy

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Post by TWISTED-TOYS » Sat Nov 27, 2004 7:14 pm

Here is my first stab at mounting them up on my zilla project..

[img][img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v208/skipstr71/Zilla%20build%20up/zilla7.jpg[/img][/img]

[img][img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v208/skipstr71/Zilla%20build%20up/zilla6.jpg[/img][/img]

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Post by TWISTED-TOYS » Sat Nov 27, 2004 9:54 pm

Yea it coming to gether.. I just spent time mounting my LST tires and droping it from 6' up. Its a sweet set up and I really try not to brag.. I will give the credit to the shocks all the way.!

Yes all the material I have is 4mm 7075, so the TVPs are and so are the brackets. I can not see any way these parts would bend. I would be shocked.

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Post by iCow » Mon Nov 29, 2004 3:22 pm

yes you need BIG offset rims...

or get lower arms with multiple mounts like the integy ones or GPM ones...
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Post by iCow » Mon Nov 29, 2004 7:23 pm

hey i think i found a solution...

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This goes on the stock lower arms, on the front side. the circle parts go where the shocks normally mount and to get the bracket flat across the front you can use rod collars that you can get at any LHS. I usually use them for spacers and they would be perfect for fitting in the small circle where the stock shock ends go.

anyway, the thinking here is to get the LST rod ends up and away from the hubs to allow more clearance and position options...

Just a thought... but maybe casey could fab some out and try them on his Zilla ;)

It's the same bracket principal that i use for my stabilizers.

the picture is actual size... Casey if you need a high dpi version to print out for measuring let me know and i'll email it...

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Post by iCow » Sat Dec 11, 2004 9:56 pm

ok here's what i got so far... i'm thinking i'll use these for my show truck...

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Post by nitro_freak1 » Tue Dec 14, 2004 10:11 am

ok i did the lst shock mod an my tvps an towers are stock ...take a look at it

http://tinypic.com/vuex5
http://tinypic.com/vuetv
http://tinypic.com/vuexu

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Post by TWISTED-TOYS » Wed Dec 15, 2004 3:04 am

Yea the brackets need the right hardware. I will have this thing out there soon for a test. The top needs no stand off other than stock. The bottom i used a ofna stand off. I dont think you would need to have any extention but I am unsure. It has plenty of room with the .5" extention I have.

[img][img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v208/skipstr71/Zilla%20build%20up/DSC00098.jpg[/img][/img]

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Post by TWISTED-TOYS » Fri Dec 17, 2004 2:42 am

Heres is how i did it useing nova towers. It still rubs with stock wheels though.

[img][img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v208/skipstr71/Zilla%20build%20up/LST1.jpg[/img][/img]

The ofna buggy stand offs worked good for me here. I used them on top and bottom. Although I switched the bottom shock location.

[img][img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v208/skipstr71/Zilla%20build%20up/Picture015.jpg[/img][/img]

[img][img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v208/skipstr71/Zilla%20build%20up/Picture016.jpg[/img][/img]
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Post by iCow » Mon Dec 20, 2004 3:21 pm

i just won this on ebay... for $125 + shipping... heh

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the set is $250 from RC tricks itself... so i think i got a good deal...

This should take care of my clearance issue with stock offset rims... the lower arms have shock mounts going back pretty far in toward the chassis...

Casey... what's the shield in your last pic above? is that a servo guard? If so... good idea... armor plated. heh.
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Post by iCow » Thu Dec 23, 2004 1:20 am

Okay guys here's my final mounting solution for the LST shocks...

Not a cheap one... but it completely works...

RC-trix U/L arm set
Integy Aluminum shock towers
Twisted-Toys Shock Tower brackets
Ofna Shock Stand-offs

Of course the critical part that everyone has been concerned about is the lower arm mounting.. both strength of the mount and the clearance of the shock and the stock offset rims/tires. Using the inner-most shock mount hole on the RC-Trix lower arms, I slipped an OFNA shock stand off in between the arm rails for some added strength and just screwed the rod end flush againt the arm. No way this sucker is bending.

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Here you can see the clearances of the shock spring and the upper arms... it's close but no rubbing anywhere in the suspension travel. There's even plenty of space between the shock and the Jumbo Kongs in a full turn... again no rubbing at all.

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Here's the full mount from the side. You can see the LST follows the same line as the original stock shock. It's tucked in nice and cozy...

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Here's the full truck in a few poses...

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In the last pic you can see how the shocks are sitting nearly vertical. The response on these things is awesome. Great spring back and smooth, fluid compression.

Well that's it... you can see the beginnings of turning Fat Man into a show stopper... I couldn't honestly use all that pretty aluminum and nice shocks on a basher... heh.

If this setup clears even Jumbo Kongs at full turn and full compression then it will clear anything.

Well this is my .02 on the solution and mod...

Next for this beast is a WASP .28, Nova .28 Race Head, and the sliding clutch off of Little Boy... sad to say... Little Boy is completely in pieces... all that work *sniffle*
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Post by TWISTED-TOYS » Thu Dec 23, 2004 3:46 am

Looks awsome. Looks like it will hold up if you were to drive it. Those arms sure are blingin....

So you would be able to clear, say pro line 40 series????

I love my LST shock set up. Its the best mod yet. I just am limited to the offset rims. I am loving the X75 on losi tires. Havent poped a bead in over a gallon. They are a perfect match. You can do the LSt shocks with the stock arms no problem but to be limited one rims kinda hurts. I'll have to look into those arms.
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Post by iCow » Thu Dec 23, 2004 5:56 am

I can try my joe's on it today. But honestly... if these KONGs clear it, 40's will...

as for the arms... i'm sure you know somebody with a CNC machine that could cut you out a set from billet... heh.

Go to www.rc-tricks.com and they have close up photos of the lower arms ;)

Not sure which is cheaper, just buying them or cutting them out yourself... check ebay evey once and a while though...
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Post by TWISTED-TOYS » Thu Dec 23, 2004 5:27 pm

The adapters should make it clear the standard offset rims. They might be kinda hokie though.. I have been looking for adapters like that.. good find.

I will play with different mounting on the stock arms.. It only needs aloittle more clearence than what I got with this set up. I think I can move the bottom mount over more. I will give it a shot. Here is how it is at the moment.

[img][img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v208/skipstr71/Ebay/47a85eb7.jpg[/img][/img]

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Post by TWISTED-TOYS » Fri Dec 24, 2004 1:38 am

40 series rims and dirt hawgs ( i think ) fit with my set up.

[img][img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v208/skipstr71/63c88b8e.jpg[/img][/img]




Stock rims and tires do not work.




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Post by TWISTED-TOYS » Sun Dec 26, 2004 2:16 am

Damage report #1.

Ran into the back of my tire on my truck. It was a pretty hard smack. The bracket may have just got slightly tweeked but its hard to see. The bolt is toast and the Plastic stand off is about shot. I need to find the AL shock stand offs. I saw them somewhere and now I cant remeber where. This may not have happened.

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Post by iCow » Sun Dec 26, 2004 7:41 pm

i could have sworn i saw Al stndoffs for the LST.... i gotta remember where is all

EDIT: Aha i KNEW i wasn't crazy...

http://h1071692.hobbyshopnow.com/produc ... d=DYN7213B

good vendor and great price... i may grab a set myself... :twisted:
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Post by TWISTED-TOYS » Wed Jan 12, 2005 11:18 pm

Yea I wonder what happend to my pics.. well here they are...

[img][img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v208/skipstr71/Ebay/4c575b9a.jpg[/img][/img]

The stand off on the bottom is the Ofna shock stand off.

The one on top is the dynimite AL shock bushing. It takes the place of the plastic on that lasted me a thump into my truck tire.

If you want more detailed pics (or part #'s) email me mckaseye@yahoo.com.. Some reason my pics dont stay up for very long around here.
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Post by TWISTED-TOYS » Sat Jan 22, 2005 9:03 pm

Although they are still worth every penny.. There is a weak link on them.. It was kinda my dumb *censored* fault but still. Hitting a solid object in the right spot at high speeds gets you this.. During all my bashing on them not one problem though...

[img][img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v208/skipstr71/2d3268bd.jpg[/img][/img]

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Post by navydocsavage » Mon Jan 24, 2005 10:06 pm

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this my savvy basher with lst shocks.
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Savvy SH28 #2- www.twisted-toys.net Lcg/ext tvp racer/ basher.
MT2 S-25 2spd
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